she somehow has managed to come out of the benghazi thing unscathed. susan rice is taking most of the political heat for that. so if you look at how secretary clinton has navigated the last four years as secretary of state, it may not have been -- i don't think it's going to go down in history as, you know, one of the most influential secretary of states of ever, because i don't know what i would say right now about what huge things that have been accomplished. but she certainly has managed to come out of it, you know, without a lot of nicks at all. >> and in the poll you just cited, she gets the backing of more than 60% of republican women. if hillary clinton decides she wants to get in, she clears the field. you could be seeing other democratic potential candidates like governor brian schweitzer, governor martin o'malley trying to test the waters if she decides not to run or auditioning to be a vice presidential nominee. >> the reason it's easy for you to get democratic insiders to say she's absolutely running is because she's absolutely not. >> no d